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Old Dec 30, 2009, 06:43 PM // 18:43   #1
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Exclamation Scamming Loophole

Judging by some of the comments, I think some people need to read before replying, I never said I got scammed, I did check the items, just coming across the scam, made me want to warn others, but ty everybody else for sensible replies.

As for the person on the second page who admits to scamming people, hopefully your time will come soon enough and you will be banned..

How is it that such a blatent scam can be played out, today a player offered me 6 stacks of wintersday gifts for 60 ectos, upon them submitting the stacks of gifts, I checked them and they had exactly the same display skin as wintersday gifts, luckily I checked title and turns out they were Special presents (quest item), how is it that players can even put these into the trade window, its a massive fault that needs dealing with fast. I guess not until next year atleast now though.

Scammers take advantage of anything and everything and this must seem to good to be true to them.

Anyway just thought I would forwarn the community, I have since got some of the gifts by accepting the quest and then abandoning it, I attempted to trade them to my second account and sure enough the items were traded...

Anyway just be careful, and fingers crossed this is resolved by next year........

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Old Dec 30, 2009, 06:49 PM // 18:49   #2
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Thanks dude. Good to know this.
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Old Dec 30, 2009, 06:50 PM // 18:50   #3
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The fact that someone was willing to sell you stacks for the paltry sum of 10e/ea didn't set off red flags immediately? If it looks too good to be true, it usually is.
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Old Dec 30, 2009, 06:55 PM // 18:55   #4
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same scam every year.....
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Old Dec 30, 2009, 07:22 PM // 19:22   #5
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Umm, this is the same for every item that shares its icon with another item.
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Old Dec 30, 2009, 08:37 PM // 20:37   #6
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Best policy is to always mouse over the item. Always. It's up to the buyer to make sure that they're getting what they're supposed to be getting, because frankly, people are jerks and will try to scam other people. That's not going to change. Diligence is about the only option.
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Old Dec 30, 2009, 08:46 PM // 20:46   #7
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There are a lot of items sharing the same icon (for example: lilac eyes with rubies, ice with sapphires, destroyer cores with molten hearts, frigid heart, glowing heart, and roaring ether hearts, kegs of ale with 50 uses with kegs of ale with 1 use remaining, etc). The buyer/seller should always check what is being place it trade with care.
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Old Dec 30, 2009, 08:47 PM // 20:47   #8
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No one ever told you?

RTFM!!!!!! aka Read The FINE Manual or more common one...Read The F*king Manual

meaning read instead of ass-u-me its the right item just because it look like the right item.
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Old Dec 30, 2009, 08:54 PM // 20:54   #9
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well if somebody doesnt check the items that they are spending 60e for in the first place you deserve to be scammed. But thanks for the heads up
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Old Dec 30, 2009, 08:55 PM // 20:55   #10
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It's not just an in game scam either. G.I. Joe for the 360 is a common scam and unless you read a review your down $60.

The worst scamming loophole is the Frozen Ecto. When it first came out there was a lot of problems with players being scammed.
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Old Dec 30, 2009, 09:01 PM // 21:01   #11
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oki just got hit by this and was about to post a warning on guru i only lost
20k i know its not a big deal but ive never actually seen these before were do u get them?
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Old Dec 30, 2009, 09:05 PM // 21:05   #12
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When something like this happens simply take a screenshot of all applicable information. Agreed upon exchange details. The trade window with the obviously scamming materials.

Submit the details and screenshots to the web support. Don't bother with /report as that doesn't ever do anything.

They will research and verify that they tried to scam you and suspend their account. If it happens enough, they will be banned.

Nothing more satisfying than getting a response from support that says they suspended that persons account...
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Old Dec 30, 2009, 10:30 PM // 22:30   #13
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ive never actually seen these before were do u get them?
If you don't know something ingame, try typing /wiki <term you are looking for>. Try typing:

/wiki special present
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Old Dec 30, 2009, 11:12 PM // 23:12   #14
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how is it that players can even put these into the trade window, its a massive fault that needs dealing with fast.
It's not exactly a massive fault. People used to trade quest items a lot (and I guess some people still do). That's why it was programmed so that people can trade quest items.
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Old Dec 30, 2009, 11:30 PM // 23:30   #15
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It's not exactly a massive fault. People used to trade quest items a lot (and I guess some people still do). That's why it was programmed so that people can trade quest items.
WTS Althea's Ashes!!

Oh memories....

Remember when Frozen Ectos first came out? A bunch of knuckleheads convinced an entire legion of additional knuckleheads that frozen ectos would turn into real ectos at the end of Wintersday that they were all gonna be rich rich rich! Frozen ecto sales skyrocketted!

I agree with those above, check yourself before you wreck yourself and if it's too good to be true, it probably is.
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Old Dec 30, 2009, 11:41 PM // 23:41   #16
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WTS Althea's Ashes!!

Oh memories....

Remember when Frozen Ectos first came out? A bunch of knuckleheads convinced an entire legion of additional knuckleheads that frozen ectos would turn into real ectos at the end of Wintersday that they were all gonna be rich rich rich! Frozen ecto sales skyrocketted!

I agree with those above, check yourself before you wreck yourself and if it's too good to be true, it probably is.
lol the memories but what i heard was that if dawayna won wed get ectos if grenth won wed have to wait till after he left for them to change
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Old Dec 30, 2009, 11:55 PM // 23:55   #17
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lol the memories but what i heard was that if dawayna won wed get ectos if grenth won wed have to wait till after he left for them to change
LAWL!! It's a conspiracy I tells you! A CONSPIRACY!

New rumor::: This year, all the gifts I give out during my Giveaway turn into mini-jingle bears at 23:59:59 on the 2nd of Jan.
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Old Dec 31, 2009, 12:07 AM // 00:07   #18
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LAWL!! It's a conspiracy I tells you! A CONSPIRACY!

New rumor::: This year, all the gifts I give out during my Giveaway turn into mini-jingle bears at 23:59:59 on the 2nd of Jan.
lol patrisha i want all ur gifts then i want another bear or you kno a couple hundred more wouldent be a problem =P
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Old Dec 31, 2009, 12:12 AM // 00:12   #19
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Have a good read of this wiki article:

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Scam

It covers most of the well known scams like the one you mentioned and the best way to avoid them.
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Old Dec 31, 2009, 12:14 AM // 00:14   #20
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hmmmm...
Always read the item description before you trade with someone guys.
A little responsibility for ourselves....... goes a long way.
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